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Post by maggiemiller on Sept 6, 2015 21:31:17 GMT -8
I definitely agree with Sam, the article is exaggerated and it doesn't change much because privacy is violated all the time in different forms. The only reason this one mattered so much was because it involved a celebrity that was exposed. I also agree that people need to be more educated because then they will finally understand that even though we have "privacy" there are still people that are smarter who can violate it.
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Post by Jordan Tallman on Sept 6, 2015 22:50:48 GMT -8
Clearly, I don't sympathize with the people who were trying to cheat on their spouses and for this reason kind of believe that this privacy breach was beneficial to society. No, it is not the tip of the iceberg- our social security numbers and back account info have yet to be leaked. This particular instance is no different from other major hacks like the Sony hack earlier this year and, therefore, makes no significant impact on whether or not privacy is suddenly "extinct". Privacy is rare but "extinct" is quite a stretch. For the most part, a hack into such a harmful website is not such a bad thing. Spouses have the right to know if they are cheated on and the whole premise of the site was morally incorrect. Cheating on a marriage is not something to be kept private. This brings up a new question: what has the right to be kept private?
All in all, I don't see this particular hack to be worse than previous ones (maybe more harmful to relationships) so I don't believe it is "the tip of the iceberg" or holds any particular significance.
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Post by Jordan T on Sept 6, 2015 22:58:39 GMT -8
I agree with Emma in that the effects of being spied on are far worse than those of being left alone. People committing suicide over the hack isn't exactly providing safety. For this reason it seems that giving up our privacy doesn't exactly secure us with safety. The people in a marriage who were forced to reveal their cheating may have been beat by their husbands, which is definitely not a safe outcome from giving up your privacy. The government (and in this case hackers) should consider the effects of their exposure to not just be helpful but also harmful in many ways. I do, however, disagree with Emma in that there are still some possible ways for privacy to exist but they certainly aren't on Ashley Madison.
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Post by Maddy B on Sept 7, 2015 9:54:15 GMT -8
I do think that privacy is extinct all together because advancements in technology has proved that we can be watched at all times. Cameras, microphones, and even droids have the ability to watch what you are doing 24/7. Although many people focus on the fact that this new technology brings an invasion of privacy, I think we should focus more on how monitoring ensures public safety. By invading our privacy, the government is able to keep a closer eye on suspicious activity and may even be able to stop a terrorist attack or bomb threat before it happens. I think the extinction of privacy is not necessarily a bad thing because in the long run, it keeps us safe. As Americans, we want to know that our country is doing everything they can to keep us safe and therefore I think the government has complete authority to invade our privacy.
The Ashley Madison hack could be the tip of the iceberg because it reveals information that many people don't want others to know. This hack is critical in the debate on privacy because it shows that nothing is really private anymore and we can no longer count on the government to conceal our identity.
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Post by Maddy B on Sept 7, 2015 10:01:29 GMT -8
I agree with Paige's idea that most Americans don't even realize that their privacy is gone, which shows that we don't really need privacy in our lives. Prior to learning about this unit, I had never really thought about the government watching over everything I do. Even though I knew that the government could access any of my personal information if they wanted to, I didn't really think of it as an invasion of privacy. I think this is how a lot of Americans consider their privacy; they just don't really care. They know that the government is watching them, but they don't really notice anything in their day to day that makes this evident. This lack of awareness shows that we don't really need privacy in our lives. If the government were to stop invading our privacy right at this moment, no one would even notice.
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Post by diegoletamendi on Sept 7, 2015 13:40:39 GMT -8
Privacy is not extinct, at least not yet. There are still various parts of our lives that can be hidden, but of course there are also parts of our lives that could very possibly be exposed to the public. So "extinct" wouldn't really be right word. Though considering the fact that our privacy is actively declining, it would be reasonable to call our privacy "endangered".
What happened is a bad thing because it means that any contacts or people you have association with may no longer respect your privacy. If they're checking to see if you signed up for a specific website then that's basically disregarding their privacy. While obviously these people should be ashamed of what they did, that doesn't mean that this information should be given involuntarily to anyone who cares to look for it.
This situation is just the set-up for many more to come. We should be worried because things like these will no longer surprising. We already see news of so many "hacks" in the media that soon enough information being exposed like this will be commonplace. Nobody will be safe.
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Post by diegoletamendi on Sept 7, 2015 13:49:33 GMT -8
I disagree with what Jordan said, or more specifically this sentence: "No, it is not the tip of the iceberg- our social security numbers and back account info have yet to be leaked." In May 2011, Sony released a statement that a database, which contained various pieces of information on 24.6 million Sony Online Entertainment accounts, had been hacked. Included in these pieces of information were 12,700 credit card numbers. Source: www.wired.com/2011/05/sony-online-entertainment-hack/Then in November 2014, Sony was once again hacked. This time it was their Sony Pictures Entertainment department. There were huge leaks, with things like personal e-mails between Sony executives in them. One of the things included in this hack were 47,000 social security numbers. Source: www.cnet.com/news/sony-hack-said-to-leak-47000-social-security-numbers-celebrity-data/So basically, Jordan's wrong. If our credit card information and our social security numbers are being leaked, then it's not just the tip of the iceberg - it's the whole damn iceberg. |
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Post by Kourosh S. on Sept 7, 2015 16:14:53 GMT -8
I agree with Maggie... this article is exaggerated since our privacy is breached all the time anyways. The people on Ashley Madison were dumb enough to use their real information and got what they deserved.
From what I know, many of these hackers are legitimately good people such as the members of anonymous, etc. The article mentions that 'Next time, the target might be one that inspires less prurient schadenfreude: Rehab centers, churches, foundations, political campaigns -- or Planned Parenthood." This doesn't make any sense because these organizations aren't based on deceit, and they have certain moral standards at which they abide by.
It doesn't seem like people are going to instantly start hacking every known website because they hacked Ashley Madison, because they aren't hacking for the sake of hacking.
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Post by Kourosh S. on Sept 7, 2015 16:33:34 GMT -8
I do feel that privacy is gone in that anyone who wants something badly enough they can access it, such as with Ashley Madison.
But I don't feel that people WANT to know everything about everyone for no reason. Ashley Madison was a special case where people could sign up for something that was obviously immoral. People WANTED to know who would do that. But privacy still exists because I feel like some things no one cares enough to look for. No one really cares to see my last snapchat story or text messages, so no one will bother working hard enough to look. And thats what makes it private is that no one will look.
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Post by Joey Murrer on Sept 7, 2015 20:09:04 GMT -8
I agree with Erika. The quote "privacy is not extinct rather it is extinct in different parts of an individual's life" is a very good observation. No, I do not feel that privacy is completely exterminated. You have to take into consideration the different forms of privacy. There is being in your house alone with nobody able to see you, and there is online privacy where your social media accounts have the possibility to be accessed and hacked. Being apart of the online media trend, one has to accept that they are subjecting themselves to possible hackings. You could completely disconnect yourself and not worry about your accounts getting hacked, but this is almost physically impossible today. Even though privacy is constantly violated, it is not gone. It is still illegal to hack, and commit identity theft, but it doesn't stop people from doing it. It can be compared to doing drugs; it is illegal but people still do it. That does not mean that the laws should just be dismissed. I do feel that the lack of online privacy id bad. Breaches like the Ashley Madison topic are becoming more and more common, and it is not just to take someones personal information. If somebody gets ahold of specific it can really screw you over. I have mixed emotions over the Ashley Madison incident. I do not feel that it is okay for information like that to be given out, but I feel equally against people having affairs. I honestly feel this breach in information was good because even though it may have ended many relationships, people do not deserve being cheated on. Hacks like this are just the tip of the iceberg. There are going to be more and more hacks, with nothing to stop them.
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Post by Lucas Junod on Sept 7, 2015 20:32:29 GMT -8
I believe that our privacy is not extinct at all because of the fact that we get to choose what we put onto the internet. The ones who used the Ashely madison website to have affairs with their loved ones got what they deserved since they used all their real information. The article, in my eyes seemed to be very exaggerated. To call it an "Extinction of Privacy" seems to be blown out of proportion because this invasion of privacy has occurred long before this Ashley Madison scandal, and will continue to be violated by many other companies or institutions. I believe that this is not nearly the tip of the iceberg because this is nothing new to the online world. This Ashley Madison scandal to me is not such a bad thing because i feel that the ones using this website got what they deserved. If you wanted your affair to be private you should have kept it off the internet.
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Post by Noahwo on Sept 7, 2015 20:42:15 GMT -8
I don't think privacy is extinct altogether but it is definitely becoming a thing of the past. I think it is a bad thing because everybody has things they would rather keep to themselves, and although in this situation the site that was compromised promoted infidelity, in the future something like planned parenthood could very well be hacked. We should care about this because most of our assets and personal information can be accessed from online.
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Post by Noahwo on Sept 7, 2015 21:19:27 GMT -8
I believe that our privacy is not extinct at all because of the fact that we get to choose what we put onto the internet. The ones who used the Ashely madison website to have affairs with their loved ones got what they deserved since they used all their real information. The article, in my eyes seemed to be very exaggerated. To call it an "Extinction of Privacy" seems to be blown out of proportion because this invasion of privacy has occurred long before this Ashley Madison scandal, and will continue to be violated by many other companies or institutions. I believe that this is not nearly the tip of the iceberg because this is nothing new to the online world. This Ashley Madison scandal to me is not such a bad thing because i feel that the ones using this website got what they deserved. If you wanted your affair to be private you should have kept it off the internet. I agree that if people want their affairs to be private they should keep them off the internet. I also agree that the article seemed to exaggerate to what extent privacy is being breached. |
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Post by Matthew Brunetti on Sept 8, 2015 12:29:46 GMT -8
The article seems to be overexageratting this whole situation. While this hack was huge, it's no where near big enough to completely stop Internet privacy, or any privacy for that matter. This was Ashley Madison, not chase banking or bay federal. Money wasn't stolen, nor were identities of the users or models that model the products. That being said, I do believe that this hack was a bad thing. While I may not support what the website sells or does, I don't think it should be hacked, because there are people who use the site. This however, is the tip of the iceberg. While we shouldn't care or worry now, the hacks could get more and more elaborate, and the hackers more and more intelligent about what they do. Once huge sites or sites that have a lot of private info on them are hacked, then we can start panicking
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Post by Matthew Brunetti on Sept 8, 2015 12:34:11 GMT -8
I agree with same when he said "I think that the difficulty that the a waste user has using a computer is really where the problems lie" because it makes a lot of sense. While several people want to have their information secured online, they often don't have the knowledge on how to do so, which makes their info a lot easier to find if and when their accounts are hacked.
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