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Post by Admin on Aug 31, 2015 10:15:05 GMT -8
Good job on your comments for the previous post. A couple things: -try to bring in relevant facts and information to support your comments -Be careful on posting: anonymous postings can be tracked through several means. If you decide to post anonymously, and post inappropriate comments to other students, you will receive a "0" for participation FOR THE SEMESTER and will have to deal with administration. Lets make this a fun and safe place to debate. PLEASE FLAG POSTS YOU FEEL ARE INAPPROPRIATE, AND I WILL REVIEW IT So, onto the next topic: Fascinating article out from CNN about the Ashley Madison hack, and what it means for privacy. www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/opinions/yang-ashley-madison-hack/index.htmlIt brings up some interesting points that we should think about. I don't think many people feel sorry for those people who are getting caught cheating on their spouses, but think beyond that fact. -Do you think privacy is extinct altogether. -Is this really a BAD thing? -Why do you think the Ashley Madison hack could just be the tip of the iceberg? In other words, why should we care? I have enjoyed reading your comments on the previous post so far. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Sam Caldwell on Aug 31, 2015 21:02:07 GMT -8
I think that this article exaggerated significantly that privacy is completely gone, I do not think that this really changed anything. Privacy is going to be violated by various groups no matter what happens and I do not believe that this is an inherently bad thing.
I think that the difficulty that the average user has using a computer is really where the problems lie. Clearly these were people who wanted to hide something that they were doing, but they just do not have the know-how to hide what they are doing.
People should care because they need to educate up if they want to do hide what they are doing, or not do whatever they were going to do in the first place, unless they are not scared of the risks that they are taking.
I do not think that this is a big deal.
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Post by nicolascoffeyp3 on Aug 31, 2015 22:14:29 GMT -8
I agree with Sam that this article over exaggerates and is a little extreme, but I agreed with the article that privacy really is now a thing of the past. Most of everything we do is monitored whether we like it or not, and it has been shown many times that the government really wont change this with the constant threat of terror on our country. I believe that it is time to embrace this "invasion of privacy", as it is an essential way to protect ourselves.
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Post by Sam Caldwell on Aug 31, 2015 22:19:03 GMT -8
While to some degree I understand how privacy is kind of close to an end, embracing the invasion of privacy is just a terrible idea. No one should let go of their rights so easily and without consequence. It just does not make any sense to let this go. I do not think that there is a way to fight against the lack of privacy.
At the end you said that embracing the invasion of privacy as almost a proactive means of protecting oneself is interesting, nice point.
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Post by nicolascoffeyp3 on Aug 31, 2015 22:24:34 GMT -8
The premise that we are letting go of our privacy with no fight is incorrect, and it could be argued our rights aren't even being violated. To those who do feel that our 4th amendment is being violated, simply way the pros and cons, and ask yourself if you would trade your safety for private pictures on Facebook.
Also thank you for seeing part of my point Sam, your stance also had some interesting thoughts inputted.
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Post by Ryan F. on Sept 5, 2015 10:29:50 GMT -8
I know that are privacy is being violated, though I don't feel that this is a bad thing. This will help couples understand each other better. It will ultimately help Honesty thrive. I always thought that you should never be ashamed of what you do in the dark. It might even help longer marriages because of this (forced) new found honesty. The hack the Link discusses, will just be one of many. No matter what someone can do there will always be another that is smarter then you and break your security codes. This is why you should just accept it. There is no use worrying over something that you cant change. Goodbye Privacy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by jessica90zamudio on Sept 5, 2015 13:58:59 GMT -8
I think that privacy is not extinct rather it is extinct in different parts of an individual's life. Perhaps online it is extinct but not in other parts of an individual's life. I don't think this is a bad idea it actually might even help break a taboo that these sites are bad because now that everything was brought to light there will be a more open mind and if these individuals were old enough to be on these websites then they must be old enough to know what to do and how to confront their situation. I don't think we should care Ashley Madison is only one of the many other websites there are and if it happens again i think it's no big deal because privacy has come be non existent online. I ink that if something like the Ashley Madison incident ever does happen I think it would be more beneficial. "Once the names were exposed to the world, it was revealed that thousands of public figures were among its paid members, including disgraced reality TV star and conservative family values icon Josh Duggar."( CNN) . The fact that there were many public figures involved in the scandal can help view them in a more human light and not judge them harshly because privacy is no longer existent it only occurs in our bathrooms. I think that there is nothing wrong with the involved individuals rather the were victims of privacy that no longer is.
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Post by jessica90zamudio on Sept 5, 2015 14:10:55 GMT -8
I agree with Nicolas because even though situations like the Ashley Madison incident may happen they don't define whether privacy is existent or not. I also agree on that if we weigh the pros and cons we might come to a consensus that it's much better if we are protected. Our 4th amendment does guarantee us certain rights which on the internet seem to be non existent we still have privacy in our homes and conscious but privacy online might just be a thing from the past. We do sign that privilege away so I think that there should be no annoyance when we see our pictures or personal information elsewhere online.
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Post by Erika Escalona on Sept 5, 2015 17:16:04 GMT -8
The comparison of the extinction of the dinosaurs to the extinction of privacy in the beginning of the article is rich, and I find it a funny comparison. Privacy to me is not totally extinct although I do feel like its going down hill fast. Events like the Ashely Madison hack scare many people because it startling to think that private information can be obtained so easily now, but honestly it was always attainable. The Ashely Madison hack is definitely the tip of the iceberg because it's made many became aware of our vulnerability in the internet. This being bad is an understatement, because in no means, being not able to control your own life fine. We should be able to choose whether who knows about our personal life, since it is personal, it's even in the name. The author chooses to declare privacy as extinct and says "Take a lesson from the creatures that survived the Cretacean cataclysm.", already saying goodbye to privacy. I on the other hand believe we should care and not give up in retaining our privacy, because losing it is losing part of ourselves to the world. Your losing control of your own life.
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Post by Erika Escalona on Sept 5, 2015 17:23:56 GMT -8
I like the point Jessica made in the beginning of her post " privacy is not extinct rather it is extinct in different parts of an individual's life" because this is actually a very good observation. In our everyday life outside of the internet is still private to an unknown eye, but this may quickly change. Soon we will have our private lives displayed right in front of the whole world to see. That's why I disagree with her other conclusion that hacks like Ashley Madison are a good thing because events like these lead us to a future where our privacy is extinct, not only in the internet but outside in the real world.
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Post by Sydney Livingston on Sept 5, 2015 22:37:43 GMT -8
I do not think that privacy is completely extinct. I think that this article made it seem like this new monitoring system is the end of the world and that we should just say goodbye to privacy all together. This article compares our privacy situation to the extinction of the dinosaurs. This seems very extreme for the situation it is being compared to. We still have privacy in our homes and we are not constantly being watched. Most websites do have search engines that just sift through what people have been searching and watching, but for the most part, this does us no harm. This leads me to my answer to the second question that is no, I do not think this is such a bad thing. Sure we are being monitored and I would prefer that they didn't, however, with modern technology there is no escaping it. In this day and age it is almost impossible to use technology without being monitored. I think that when we go online, to search something or post something on social media it is with the intent of it being seen by others. Why, then, are we so upset over the fact that these surveillancwe monitors can see them as well? We should care because we cannot be ignorent to the fact that we are infact, being watched online. It is important to understand the fact that we are being monitored and that just because we are alone does nto mean we have complete privacy.
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Post by Sydney Livingston on Sept 5, 2015 22:46:36 GMT -8
I agree with Sam that this article eggagerataed the issue at hand. I think that with modern technology we will be monitored either way and there is really no way to avoid it. To go unnoticed, one should just lay low, keep their accounts private, and not make a huge scene online. If most people act this way, then this privacy breech will not even be a big deal because their will be no top secret information to share or major things to hide. I do think that this privacy issue is a big deal that must be addressed but I would not go so far as to say that our privacy is extinct.
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Post by Jennifer Lopez on Sept 6, 2015 13:14:04 GMT -8
An incident like that of the Ashley Madison hack can most definatly cause disturbance amongst people. Although I do believe that privacy is extinct all together I feel that the article posted on CNN News by journalist Jeff Yang is an exaggeration. Jeff Yang used a metaphor where he compares the extinction of the dinosaurs and the end of privacy on the web. I don't necessarily think that not having privacy on the web is something that should be made a big deal of since I don't believe that there has ever been such a thing as privacy on the web. Even so, the Ashley Madison hack could just be the one incident that could cause enough worry in people that they began to demand something to be done about the issue.
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Post by Jennifer Lopez on Sept 6, 2015 13:19:17 GMT -8
I agree with Nicolas about the statement he makes about privacy being a thing of the past. Anyone who using the internet should really be aware that they will receive no privacy as they are constantly being monitored. I also believe, like Nicolas, that this article over exaggerates the idea of privacy and although many do not believe the invasion of our privacy is used for good it is a great time to start believing that it might just be.
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Post by tonyr on Sept 6, 2015 17:19:29 GMT -8
I don't think privacy is extinct, although in terms of online privacy it can be pretty tricky because anything that's posted online can be seen by people all over the world. I don't see this as that big of a deal because in the online world hacking is a common thing. Therefore, people should keep in mind that no matter how safe they try to be, their will always be a way to "hack in". We can't simply ignore incidents like the Ashley Madison hack because all of these little events can add up to a bigger problem.
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